Team Fish Fingytec builds

Hey all

Ive never really done build diaries for my robots and this thread will probably be more a collection of photos of what Im up to after this, but ill try (and probably fail) to keep it updated lol

Im fortunate enough that my workplace is sending me to work on the east coast of America for the rest of the year at relatively short notice, unfortunately that means I have a month to design and build a US beetle to take to NHRL and GSCRL that I can service and work on with a minimal amount of tools.
For those that may not know the US weight limit for beetles is 3lb or 1.36kg not our 1.5kg so i need to build from scratch!
My only brief for this robot was to be somewhat tryhard but also not characterless

I have recently purchased a beautifully made drum from Felix T and at 430g its a chunky boi


pictured for size next to a repeat max and Let The Good Times Roll’s drum if you remember that pre-covid one hit wonder which now lives gutless in a draw

Anyway here are some absolute mistakes of cads that helped me narrow down my thought process for the final design


A fan of the shape but not the fact that if I wanted the curved lid to act like a wedge at the back and as top armor that had a right to be called top armor, polycarb wouldnt cut it. Anything else stronger bent that way sounded like too much of a stress on my weight limit, time scale and wallet.


I hated this halfway through designing, too boxy, 0 character, 3/10

The final design:
I designed this in 3 hours in a caffeinated blur.

All the hoops clip cos I dont have the skill for that.
Just imagine them beautifully curved with a heat gun and attached to the sides of the frame rails.

I slapped the weapon motor on the top to make the body as small as possible so I could save weight, drawbacks be damned, im quietly confident in the rollover hoop meta despite them falling out of popularity about 10 years ago for probably a good reason but whatever.


Front veiw.
I can spot so many things that dont quite line up or are missing, itll all be fixed in the garage I promise.


The internal veiw. Its gonna be toight. I am not looking forward to wiring this thing.
The big yellow things on the drive motors are some TPU motor guards I designed which Joe M is printing for me. He also informed me that they go on but don’t come off lol

Hoppin has cut the frame for me already so the next bit of this will come after Ive cleared some space on my workbench to start building
hype

specs for those who are interested
-Drive motors : Repeat Max Brushless Planetary 24mm Gearmotor
-Drive ESCs: BBB Beetleweight Brushless Drive ESC
-Weapon motor: 2845 3650kv X-Team OR if i run out of weight the backup is a
3000kv Propdrive v2 2836
-Weapon ESC: AM32 Aria 70A Brushless ESC
-reciver: Flysky 4 Channel Receiver
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Looking forward to see where this goes! Lots of potential for bit hits

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AINT NO ONE CAN STOP THIS GOAT :speaking_head:

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So its been a year and im gonna update what’s been happening

The initial plan for my time in America was build a robot, test it at GSCRL (Garden state combat robotics league) make the necessary improvements and then compete at NHRL with it, aaaand it didnt quite happen like that.

That robot that I was talking earlier in this thread about building for GSCRL and NHRL got built (the night before the event as per)

I took it along to GSCRL and. it. was. tragic.
-I messed up the geometry of the roll over hoops so they did everything they could to get the robot stuck upside down, serves me right for eyeballing them and going yeahh that’ll probably work unlike in the past where ive tested tweaked until they were consistent.
-all the hdpe hoops were held in by the longest wood screws I could fit but it was still not enough so they just popped off as soon as they looked at a spinner
-without one of the purple wedges the robot would just faceplant into the ground and cease to exist, something ive previously designed around but for some reason i just didn’t bother this time
-the weapon motor placement just was not it, i mean on a min max robot were you dump everything into one stat and ignore the rest (defiantly not foreshadowing) sure, whatever, but on a robot that’s just trynna survive and live its longest best life I don’t know what I was thinking.

There was more but all in all I wasn’t happy with really anything on this robot and it wasn’t something i wanted to take to NHRL

Time to get designing

My initial design thoughts were that I wanted my robot to do well, I knew everyone would be watching and NHRL is such a huge prestigious event that I wanted to focus up and build something that would have a deep run in the tournament. Ive never been really meta or try hard with my robot designs. ive always enjoyed challenging myself, pushing my own boundaries and generally making something interesting.
Anyway I put all that to the side and designed this.

I mean its something. One of the robots of all time right.
I couldn’t finish it.

Now before i got the call up to be sent abroad I had designed and started building a new version of Let The Good Times Roll


It had this huge drum I had designed to maximize the mass of inertia and spinning diameter while fitting M12 countersunk teeth and giving them 10mm thread depth. With the onyx end cap and teeth it came to 634g with a diameter of 86mm



I had spent ages getting this thing in the uk 1.5kg weight limit but what if i could take the drum and somehow get it spinning in a 1.36kg robot for NHRL, sounds like an interesting challenge.
I knew this thing needed to light on basically everything and compact as possible.
I started on a 2D plane set out the drum, then the closest i could get the weapon motor to the drum and then the closest i could get the drive motor to the weapon motor and went from there.

With stuff like this I often CAD down, I make what i want and then cut it down to what I can have, this CAD was my 3th take on making a more compact build and still 150g overweight. Originally i planned to run repeat v2s for the 6mm shaft on drive but i was running out of time and dropped down to repeat compact drive motors for the weight, even though I knew the 4mm shafts on those wouldn’t hold up to wheel hits at all. That combined with 33 different revisions on the TPU ass end found me the weight I needed for NHRL
Another weight save I thought was a brilliant idea was to have the whole of the TPU ass end held to the frame rails with heat inserts… yeah great one milo, turns out brass heat inserts hold like shit into TPU and by shit i mean i could pull the whole robot apart with barely any effort, i could kick it and its arse would drop off. Anyway found this out the day before the competition so i bought some duct tape and fucking sent it.

Before


After

Ended up going 1-2 but honestly so happy with how Thistle v.2 did, super destructive when it landed and all round crazy fun, bopping around the arena threatening to shitmix anything it could get a bite on. And somehow its arse didn’t fall off once! In the end i got shit mixed in one hit by one of the most insane robots ive seen but looking forward to what happens with this in the future!
Ill do a more detailed write up on what ive changed bringing it back to the UK to compete and what changes i will make in the future at some point, ive been sat here for 3h now, writing was never my strong point. If you wanna know more about anything ask away!

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I’ve had a few robots and at least one car like that. Rite of passage.

Honestly big fan of the very empty chassis. Gives some very angry lawnmower energy. Post competition the drum looks a bit sad, did it get popped out of the bulkhead?

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you made the morally correct choice to go with the big drum :smiley:

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The real issue was another one of my weight saving ideas, usually on a drum I would use a shaft collar or just a nut and bolt through a hole in the shaft to retain it either side of the frame rails. This time I used a split pin/cotter pin, saved a load of weight but the force of the hit pulled the pin through the hdpe rails.
It was an almost perfect hit on the side of my drum where the disc had started its impact at the onyx end cap which put up little resistance, gathered depth as it passed through and then imparted all its energy on the side of the aluminum drum.
On the next iteration Felix made me some lovely aluminum shaft collars because for some reason only steel ones exist online!