Team Johto: a tale of Wobba's past & present

Hi everyone, it’s the end of the year and I thought it might be neat to document where things started beetle wise up to now.

I first learned about beetles through now defunct Bugglebots and seeing all the really cool builds people brought along but at the time it felt kind of out of reach for me as I didn’t have an engineering background or anyone nearby to help out with. Cut to a couple years later and the lockdowns when I’d started to get to know people in the community online via the Lego robots I’d built and I got the encouragement to finally build a beetle (there was an ant beforehand kindly sent to me by Anthony but antweights are too fiddly for me!). I had plans for a 4WD axe with a Ragnarök style wedge but quickly put those to one side for the moment and focused on just a simple 4WD box so I knew I could at least build a beetle.

Aggro Wobba 0.1


Aggro Wobba 0.1 was about as simple as beetles can be: full BBB beetleweight drive kit inside with a bog standard 10mm HDPE frame with 4mm top and bottom and a 10mm hinged “wedge” that wasn’t hinged well with some 2mm Ti. Everything was and has continued to be attached via woodscrews from B&Q which I can’t recommend enough for a simple solution. It did 1 event competing as a part of the lovely mess that was Lemmings in Bevs at Robonerd 2021 and it survived it’s fight for the win and had some fun playing in the open beetle arena. Definitely recommend to anyone the best way to learn how to drive beetles is just enter as many fights as you can as it’s the best way to learn!

Anyway since I knew I could build a robot now it was time to build something with an active weapon so we’ll move onto the boi people have probably seen the most.

Aggro Wobba: Smidders Edition

Aggro Wobba: Smidders Edition (why did you go for such a long name 2 years ago David!) Was my first real go at a robot that would compete on the beetle scene. Again it was build was a standard 10mm HDPE frame with 4mm HDPE lids and on the original pictured above a 2mm Ti lid that only saw a couple fights but I still look back on the derpy painted on Wobbuffet rather fondly. The weapon itself was powered by standard 30Kg servo with the linkage being a tent peg that was bent into shape for the job. The inspiration to go with a lifter as the first active weaponed build dates back to watching Buggle and being fond of Snappy and Lance-A-Frog for the ability to be tanky/pushy boys while the name Smidders dates back to a funny moment between Craig and Filo back when we were doing Big Bot Quizzes during lockdown.

Smidders first event was 2021 BBB Beetle Champs and it highlighted a really important thing everyone should do which is make sure your robot can’t get stuck on it’s side! Besides that glaring design error it was good to get a better idea at what I’d need from Smidders to be more competitive particularly against big KE verts and beaters and that was when I remembered back at Rapture 21 that Morgan had ran a block wedge as an attachment for a fight so if it could be done as a static wedge why not a moving one!


So enters Smidders block era with a 60mm solid block of HDPE cut 45 degrees with a circular saw. Now while I’ve thoroughly enjoyed strapping a solit block of HDPE to the front of a robot it is bloody heavy and if your after a ground scraping wedge TPU is a better solution. The options of block and Ti with forks though paved the way for some moderate success in Brawl 2022 (picking up your first combat win against Drizzle is a decent way to start!) Scouse 1 (collecting a best driver award for nearly beating Endboss) and Rapture 2022 where the block came in clutch against Zephurus & Ultra-violence before 7th circle wrote off the original frame off


Brawl 2022 was the beginning of the easter egg photos underneath the robot


The OG Ti wedge post Drizzle, worth the sacrifice

Smidders with it’s Rapture special shiny wedge

The post Zephyrus chewing


The frame damage that brought an end to frame 1

A second Smidders frame was built however the only event it ran besides a rumble at Robonerd 2022 was Rapture 2023 where it was upgraded to 4S (all previous beetles of mine had been 3S) but that was marred with a lot of personal stuff that led to a rushed build, the only ESC fires I’ve had to date and issues getting the linkage to match the original version combining for a very depressed and then emotional event. The highlight though was for now Smidders last fight against the 2 builders that helped inspire it’s creation as it fought Froggy and Craig’s fun new bot bop!


Stupid sexy Craig…

Not a bit of ground game in sight!

An unused Smidders frame has had a new lease of life under the name Just Clod, borrowing another idea from Craig with a mixing bowl as a grabbing head. Just Clod ran at Robonerd 2023 in the football doing the job I wanted of consuming the ball and then driving headfirst into the goal. It was daft but I loved it!


Grabber Wobba

Grabber Wobba is a curious robot in the Wobba lineage. It first came to be as a challenge for myself really to build a different style of weapon and work on some of the lessons from Smidders and was kinda inspired by Shakey’s Boring Bot to be a hand build ‘Boring Bot at home’. Its frame is again 10mm but instead has 6mm on top and sides for better protection. It’s also significantly smaller than the Smidders frame as the internals all fit into a 150mm by 150mm square. Another offcut off of the 60mm block gave Grabber it’s big chonky front and had magnets embedded for some extra grip. The wheels were also cut from home from a £2 block of foam from Hobbycraft. For the weapon itself I’d found a 25Kg servo off of Aliexpress and along with some 6mm arms the boi should have been ready for it’s first event at 2022 Sub….


1 box built in a day while dealing with Covid

aaaaaarms

Block now attached and servo roughly where it should be

First go at vinyl wrapping before the servo problems began

This didn’t quite pan out as planned though as the servo that was meant to be used locked up when testing a servo extender so in order for Grabber Wobba to grab the original Smidders servo mount had to be mutilated in a last minute cut and shut job leading to the rather janky appearance of the arms below

The fact that Grabber Wobba won 3 fights in a row and got to the top 8 as Sub still amazes me but it was I won’t knock it! Magnets helped build more confidence in getting the robot to do what I wanted and the grabs were great!


Wrap now in ‘near mint’ condition

Grabber Wobba’s only other outing so far was 2023 Brawl where last minute bodged attempts at ground game led to some wall trouble. It did have the funniest moment I’ve had in a fight when after getting a decent run on Bonbonbonbon it bounced off the wall and down the pit leading to some far too early celebrations on my end and dropping the transmitter mid-fight! I was still able to stay in the fight and win the whiteboard but the whole thing was stupid and hilarious at the same time (will lanyard in the future).

The plan is to work on a better solution for ground game in the long run so watch this space for updates but for now let’s move onto the final Wobba….


The gift from Scott for helping get Attitude Adjuster back in the arena

Aggro Wobba

At last the hammery boi! While the goal was always there for axe Aggro Wobba it only really stepped up when Scott very kindly gave me the original axe arm from Attitude Adjuster along with the cad files for the mechanism. My only snag though was my pc doesn’t have enough space for Fusion and the editing software I’ve got for making Lego Wars so Sion and Boom Zoom Rob came to the rescue to decipher the files and between us work out what would need printing. Aggro Wobba would not have happened this year had it not been for that trio and I’m truly grateful for their help.

Frame wise it’s again a 10mm hand cut frame with 4mm lids but I wanted something more interesting to cut so it ended up with these 15 degree angle frame rails and then 10 degrees on the front achieveing part of the original Ragnarök wish from 2 years prior. To say there was issues with the build would be an understatement! Cutting angled sections perfectly 4 times was a hassle and to this day I’m still certain 1 of them is causing the frame to warp (cue calls about how simpler CNCing things is!). Weight was also a struggle on this frame so any hopes of a 3rd block was quickly dashed as cheese holing the rails became the quickest solution, such is the extent of this weight saving the inside of the rails looks like someone inverted an aero bar! The weapon itself was powered by 1500Kv Mega Sparks run off a belt with little Lego roller acting as the tensioner and was finished at 10PM the night before traveling to Bristol.


First attempt at building the frame, only the front stayed for the rest of the build

Trial run with a block before learning it would be 160g overweight!

2nd go with the rails, much closer to the final product but cheese holing was still to come

The face of a happy boi now with forks from Boom Zoom V2

As events go for a new robot Sub 2023 was the best yet! The axe that I hadn’t had time to test beforehand worked and scored a KO on Bonkers albeit breaking the 1 arm I had in the process and then after a manic 20 minutes fabricating a new arm the axe worked again damaging Wet Lettuce’s top plate for the JD victory. From there it didn’t really matter that it ran out of steam although failing to self-right was now a thing to solve.


The wrap now mildly scratched after Bonkers

The very bent tanto head that delivered the KO

A very happy boi with his Full Send Award

Between Sub and Champs there was a new front end this time trialing 10mm UHMW for the first time along with a Icebreaker inspired TPU wedge bringing Wobba closer to the build I always wanted. There was more foam cutting fun as well as after an error buying thicker foam than planned ended up requiring some indenting giving Wobba a nice offroad kind of look.




The boi now rocking a blue and gold livery with Johto badges to boot

Champs went reasonably well, had fun in the rumble before an iffy driving moment and learned about brushless covers the hard way in the round of 32 when the motor ate the ESC wires. Self-righting has continued to be an issue that I’ve traced back to belt slip and a badly chewed pully but nevertheless I’m thrilled to continue working on and run Aggro Wobba for the long haul!


A few scrapes but still usable for next year

And that’s about it for beetles so far. Hope this has helped shed light on some of the dumb things that have been built on the east coast, there’s still plenty more ideas in the tank that I hope people will enjoy and find solace in the fact that you don’t need top of the range software to build a robot, it just takes some simple tools, some chunks of HDPE and a good amount of determination to have fun along the way :blush:.

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Grabber Wobba update!

With Smidders retired and axe Aggro in need of some attention before it fights again the middle child of the Wobba family Grabber Wobba has been called back into action for Scouse 3 and it’s given a chance to work on and test a few things I want to do with my beetles going forwards

First in order to get the frame tidied up it was necessary to strip off the OG blue livery and oh boy the livery adds a lot to the character! With the bare HDPE though the block was sanded down with the new power file from Christmas and swap out the the back rail for a fresh one sans the old bum link hole.


All cleaned up.

Next up was fixing the old janky servo mount with a cut from the old block and while bulkier I’m happy with the overall look of it.


The new mount minus the loop for the locking bar

Then it was time for some long overdue ground game. When Grabber Wobba was first build I’d foolishly thought I could get away with the edge of the block being enough to get underneath opponents but that wasn’t really the case so with some help from Rob Weston we got a 3 different forks cadded up and cut.

After the bodged first attempt at mounting forks in a block the power file came in handy once again to make a decent enough gap (maybe a little too big?) with some limits so the forks can do their job. Also a few sets of hardox teeth have been cut that I definitely won’t be tempted to feed into a vert…


The different forks all tested in the holes to see what we can run.


Giving away hints to the new livery with the painted teeth…

With all those jobs done I got on with the livery and since I’m on the fence about whether this is GW’s final event I wanted to copy the old shiny theming from the Rapture Smidders runs. The new metallic pink looks amazing but has trouble sticking to rougher HDPE so to give GW it’s mouth I’ve cut together some vanity 1mm polycarbe sheets to screw over the top of the block.


The new pinker Grabber Wobba sans mouth.


Finally a locking solution I’m happy with!

Lastly I wanted to try out casting wheels for the first time so again my cadding guardian angels Rob & Sion came to the rescue with advice and some hubs to pour the mix into and to be honest it was super easy to do! Only snag has been the added weight which along with the hardox had tipped GW over 50g overweight so off came the guards and some helpful speed holes in the arms and block so GW now sits juuuust below the weight limit.


Wheels do be cooking


1 set of fresh wheels!


And there we have it ahead of Scouse! I’m hopeful that the updates will give Grabber Wobba a more competitive showing but I’ve still got to drive the thing well so time will tell!

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Blimey it’s been a bit since this was updated! Let’s start where we left off with Grabber Wobba. The boi did pretty well at Scouse 3 in the end, cast wheels proved to help solve a lot of the grip troubles of old foamies had helping it to a couple of KO’s and a fun JD (which the grabbing arms may or may not have crippled Martin’s weapon on Hooligan for MITE!). The forks however would come back to bite it in the quarter finals as the angle proved shallow enough to still get stuck under the wall. As punishment for this error I threw it in a rumble with the Randells for some catharsis!


Grabber before scouse


Grabber a little worse for wear but still working sort of!

GW has had a couple more outings at Minibeast In The East as a loaner bot to help give a couple builders having a bad time another fight along with it heading north to Dojo to try and write off the original frame. With all those fights the original block from ‘22 still remains mostly intact but with TPU being a significantly lighter solution the original Grabber Wobba frame can enjoy a well earned retirement!

Aggro Wobba goes full Fusion!

Despite the relatively light amount of damage AW took at champs last year it was becoming clear I really needed to start looking into CADing in the long term to help shift some of the unnecessary weight in the frame (without reactive cheeseholing!) along with move from pulleys to gears after the success Percussive Maintenance was having. Around this time Henry mentioned he wanted to build up a 24mm version of his 28mm Strangbox that helped bring Joe victory at Burgh last year.

Only snag I had was my old PC was chugging just running my editing software so Fusion was still out of the question in the short term but thankfully the Sion & Rob power couple came to the rescue and after some accusations of building a pyramid we made the new Aggro Wobba in CAD! Main changes between the versions involved moving the drive to Repeats with some Boom Zoom/TCD inspired gears, overall shrinking the length and widening the frame to fit the 24mm Strangbox and helical gears running the weapon as at the time we weren’t sure if the TPU would shred like they did during Joe’s 28mm testing.


A productive evening of CAD…

As Sion had the CAD saved on his PC he helped cut the frame for Wob and printed the wedge for pub beetles however it was around this time he’d noted his CNC was playing up and when building the frame it turned the holes were somewhat oval shapes and my attempt to bore the holes ended up damaging the shoulder bolt mounts! There wasn’t any time to get new parts cut before the May event though so using all the bodging skills I’d picked up over the years to get it sort of working, gave the boi it’s Team Rocket livery and headed over to Bristol to see how long it would last….


Wobba preparing for trouble

TL:DR the bodge didn’t work XD! Wheels were flying like it was 2018 and grub screws weren’t properly secured leaving it dead in the water. Worse was to come in fight 2 when one of the Repeats conked out and the working side of drive started grinding down the packaging on the LiPo! As I didn’t have any spares and Wobba clearly not healthy I pulled out of the remaining fights and pub and enjoyed the vibes/radlers for the rest of the day.


Team Johto’s blasting off agaiiiiiiiiiiiiin

Between Pub & Rapture me and Rob did some more work to widen the bot to give everything a little more space and Filo sorted out an ABS pair of the weapon gears and at 11am the Friday before Rapture the super serious version of Wobba was ready.


Frame 2 electric boogaloo


Had some fun trying to make multi coloured wheels on this cast, definitely was my favourite set of the year




The super serious boi ready for another Rapture. I had far too much fun with the extra stickers for the weekend!

Let’s focus on the positives first: I had fun at Rapture in 24, had some fun with good people there and goofing about with alleged continuity ruining shenanigans (if they make the cut) added to the entertainment. Now let’s talk about Wobba’s actual performances and kinda like Smidders the previous year it was a case of little mistakes ruining a potential run. With the rushed last minute build I’d again forgotten to threadlock the drive grub screws leaving it out for the count to Cormoran. Fight 2 was better after using some of Rob’s Vibra-tite to secure the grubs on Wobba was able to go back and forth with Data Breach and take a JD but even with some foam strapped on top for the final fight in the heat against Attitude Adjuster it just went straight over and hit the link hole and with the link intermittently cutting out it wasn’t worth keeping in the fight so I tapped out.

There were a couple more fights on day 2, the first was when me and Rob became the ‘Cormoran Victim Support Group’ in the tag team and immediately had the wrong setup to face Fang & Sniper and a very peeled face on the boi. At some point during this beatdown the 3rd 24mm Strangbox decided it did not vibe with Rapture and sheared to join Professor Franklin’s graveyard of boxes requiring an autopsy so instead of doing the other side event it was back to the bodging routes to jerry rig a 37mm from Joe to at least have a whiteboard and from memory it seemed to do alright but we’ll let the edit be the judge of that!


Comoran Victim Support Group ready to stumble around


If you stare really hard at the broken shaft you can see Zamboni…

Aggro Wobba had one more event in 2024 at BBB Beetle Champs where now I was starting to get the hang of Fusion I decided to have a little fun with the livery. Initially I was thinking of running an Eggman livery with a polycarb moustache stuck onto the front but I pivoted to the edgy boi Shadow, front end had some ears cut in along with some TPU quills that could double up as hammersaw protection and more internal pocketing to bring the weight down. Henry & Filo had also worked together to improve the 24mm Strangbox to fix the shearing issues buuuuut as ever for a David build it was finished late, only just creeping through tech checks in time to keep a spot in the bracket late! Never want to do that again! At some point while rushing I’d joked to myself “well at least I’ve never had a fire in the arena” and I’m sure that wouldn’t come back at any point….


Are these axe heads optimized? No. Do they look cool? Hell yeah!


Spiky top plates, annoyingly these did bring the bot overweight so I had some plain top plates when using the shadow axe


He angy, Wobba did look a little bit like a cosplaying Chao at this point but that’s neat in itself


Shadow Wobba all ready to go (weapon motor MIA)


More leaning into the theming. Thankfully no wheels went missing at Champs!

The fight 1 rumble was against the mean looking Groundbreaker and the defending champs Luchador so goal was just try and try and keep in the fight long enough before Jack inevitably OOTA’d me. In the end after some early fight jitters I managed to jab groundbreaker a couple times before Luchador tossed both of us over and I self-righted myself out of the arena. Whoops! Thankfully there didn’t seem to be any damage so I was ready to jump straight back in for the redemptions.


Wobba, Lucha & Groundbreaker in the queue before the rumble

Dom’s Siren was next up and I was hopeful Wobba had the better grip and could take a JD win. Straight away I’d managed to shove a fork into the gap on Siren’s forks and deliver a few hits from the axe before suddenly no axe. “Hmmm weapon’s gone, no matter I’ll just have to outdrive him” then it became clear they were a little stuck together so the fight was paused for an unstick but before that happened something did not feel right on the drive as Wobba should have had the beans to free itself. Sure enough when the fight was restarted I had no right hand drive and after a couple wiggles to show movement some interesting looking smoke came from that stuck side so that was that for the “ultimate life-form”.


Wobba & Siren prior to the smoke

Taking the top plate off outside showed both drive and weapon ESC’s had smoked and “some” connectors had desoldered themselves so it was hot in there but at least it wasn’t the left hand side otherwise it would have been a full LiPo fire so silver linings I guess! From what I’ve traced from the wreckage there were 2 sheared bolts that were meant to hold the weapon motor on and when they went it left the motor to spin and consume the wire spaghetti and jam itself sending feedback into the weapon ESC that then transferred heat into the drive to overheat the drive esc and in the end burn it taking the weapon one out in the process. A lovely cascade of things going wrong! I had a spare drive ESC but I’d given the spare back to Sion in case he needed it on Chris Griffin 2 but since he was doing well at last he didn’t need it so between him and Ellis reprogramming it Shadow Wobba was ready for a whiteboard.


Mmmmmmm charred electronics, the frame and my toolbox still stink of ESCs!

Initially the whiteboard was going to be Aggro Wobba vs. Abracagrabra as me and Becca have talked about the commentator nightmare those 2 in the arena would be and as Nick had brought along his latest and greatest livery in Robotnik Sir Lance-A-Frog the 2 Sonic themed bots needed a little fight. One thing led to another and it became a 3 vs 3 between bop!, Abra & Froggy against Bubblegum, Grapple & Wobba with Joe keeping tabs on who was left running. This fight was by some margin my favourite beetle fight in 2024! All 6 bots were bouncing around the arena leading to the below image of the chaos. Bop! was sadly out early and Bubblegum pitted Abra but Froggy was a more tricky foe for us to beat and at some point I went rogue and fought my teammates :stuck_out_tongue:. Sure enough Wobba and I were punished for the mutiny as Frog got us down the put but not before Sam went down so I’ll take those little wins and in the end Henry and Grapple got us the win in the silliest and best fight of the day. Robot wise the axe was a little temperamental in this fight but was able to dish out some hits which after the smoky fight before it was good to end on a high.


Couple of well themed bois


Half of the group ready for the rumble


Mike caught the chaos of that rumble perfectly!

That pretty much brings the Wobba line up to date. Planned improvements going into 2025 include: moving the weapon motor further forwards to free up some space inside, better wire management to cut down on the spaghetti mess and some more liveries to keep the flagship boy going however we had a couple more robots debut last year so keep an eye out on those build logs hopefully coming out faster than this one!


The 2 Wobba’s signing off 2024 (albeit a few weeks late!)

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always love the high quality theming and meming. making me jelly :stuck_out_tongue:

cant wait to see some more wob action next year. but when Shuckle robot, good old Shuckle, boutta evolve, yeah, Shuckle

May I suggest a cluster? By now, your foes are well prepared for trouble. However make it double and…

I hope the Corman Victim support group is doing well, but staring down the motor shaft all I can see is a Vortigaunt. Also a friendly reminder that you can never have too many stickers.

At the end of the day I’m here to have fun when fighting so the more memeage the better as long as it’s semi competent under the panels!