Help with Antweight

I’ve just got started here after a while of thinking about it. I’m looking to finally follow through on my plans of building an ant weight. I have a mid to low level cad experience and a 3d printer. I’ve done RC cars before. I’m a quite confused on what charger and battery to use. Spinners are cool and I can laser cut metal. I have a budget of around 160 quid all in. I have a general idea of what to do but I’m really after some general help with parts and other stuff. I have basic electrics knowledge and tools (drill solder etc). Not to be picky but I’m not a fan of eBay. Lipos are scary. Any help would be greatly appreciated :+1:.

If you aren’t keen on eBay, then HobbyKing is going to be your best bet.
For a spinner (which I do not recommend for a first time bot), you’ll be wanting a 2S LiPo in the 20p-250 mAh range.
This one is 300mAh, which may be a bit overkill, but gives you the general idea.

Bristol Bot Builders do offer a USB charger for 2S LiPos

If you want future proofing for if you go to other weightclasses, I highly recommend the IMAX B6AC V2

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Thanks so much
I have a question about the bbb charger.
Does it have the ability to storage charge? I’ve always been very careful with storage with my RC battery’s and would be a bit scared to not have it. Is it as necessary as in RC or can I get away with out it?
Thanks

Hi!

Just to add I don’t think hobbyking have stock of those sort of lipos at the moment!

We keep a list of 2S lipos on our recommended parts page.

At the moment the best in stock UK option is this 250mah 2S:

The USB charger won’t do storage, something like the Imax would. Don’t forget to get a lipo bag to charge in :slight_smile:

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I think I’ll get the IMAX charger with the Lipo from Hobbyking as they are in stock for me. Will that all work for a vert spinner? I’m looking to attend Beetle Brawl as a spectator and maybe get some inspiration. Hopefully I’ll come to an ant event in March. The robot is going to be named after a planet.
Thanks for all the advice. Will post again if I have any troubles.

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Hello again
I recently went to the BBB beetle Brawl and was well impressed.
I got back really determined to finish my antweight for the march ant event. My parts arrived a few weeks ago and they’ve kind of done nothing as I’ve been trying to come up with ideas.
I’ve designed in my head a vert spinner with one on the monsoon Robotics disks (the 60mm 2 tooth one)
I’m having problems with chassis design. I’m at the point with my cad that it looks like a robot but probably wouldn’t work (and its definitely not printable). I’m making the lid out of polycarb and the rest 3d printed. I have a feeling that the weapon is too far off the ground? Would this be a problem? I’ve trawlled the forum for ant chassis to look at and am struggling. I really need some help on the structure of the chassis for a vert and the easiest ways of doing things.
Another thing, does the weapon need support on both sides and if so how?
I need just general help with everything with the structure and chassis

Pictures are worth a thousand words mate. Hard to know if it’s too high without seeing it.

Double supporting the motor is really good practice and pretty simple to do. You can either knock out and replace the stock shaft with a longer one and get a bearing on it or you can use the prop adaptor that likely came with the motor and sit a (normally) 5mm flanged bearing into the opposing bulkhead

Thanks
I’ll post some pictures when I get back from school

First off I’d say if it’s your first bot then a control bot might be a better shout than a spinner - you will be able to test drive it at home without a test box to get familiar with how it drives and build your skill.

Even a 150g spinner is too dangerous to run outside an enclosed test box or arena and running it without the weapon won’t teach you how it’ll handle with gyro forces when spun up.

If you’re set on making a spinner tho:

Double supporting your weapon isn’t strictly needed - plenty of people run spinners at 150g without it.

It is good practice tho as it takes some of the load off the motor shaft meaning they’re less likely to bend.

Most people do that by sandwiching the weapon disc between the motor and a bolt on prop adapter then having the prop shaft sit in a 5mm bearing in the other bulkhead.

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These are the model that I created with the distance between the floor and blade is 13mm. Although I think I might redesign it anyway. What distance would be good?
Any other things about the design? (it was only a basic mock up)

I think you’re right, it’s too high. I would personally have it 1-2mm from the floor, making sure that you don’t hide it too far back into the robot either.

Not much to add at this stage but I do think it can benefit from a support the other side. I don’t understand what the partial lid is supposed to be doing also? It may also need a little more clearance around the path of the blade. Things flex a surprising amount in combat and I could see that hitting itself very easily.

Good to hear that the things that I was thinking about changing you agreed with. I’m going for a redesign that is a bit wider and shorter and lower to the ground. Thanks for all the help and I should have a build diary coming soon.