Nibble Clamp - 13.6kg BEV

So with my annual outing of Big Roborts just drifting onto the horizon (BEV’s at the farm!) I thought I would share some of the convoluted whirlwind of progress that has lead to this. The idea of fixing the problems with Flatpack didn’t exactly spark joy in the moment as that sounded a bit too much like hard work and I am a man of leisure.

Please observe these three separate events:

Way back in the mists of time I toyed with the idea of a featherweight grabber and this was the end result of some 2020ish CAD. Nicknamed “Bin Chicken” it was a simple tube and plate frame with some neat tricks that I don’t entirely hate in hindsight.

I got as far as making all the motor mounting gubbins, cutting and prepping the main body tube and machining some large bronze bushes for the jaw. Everything else threatened to cost money and part of the actuator was thrown away (intentionally) by a genuinely lovely and well liked coworker so that put the brakes on that particular thought process.

SIMILAR STORY: Here is another vestigial output from an overactive CAD imagination. This was a 12lber I designed when that class was new and engaging. It would have made a better 30lb sportsman to be quite honest.

It got about as far as a rolling chassis. Very scrappy, very thrifty little thing. Got shelved as this was when I moved from Sussex to Somerset.

Here is the bed of the scrap man’s van from where I used to work. Obviously the batteries caught my eye. Turns out he’d just been to the local fire station and had cleaned them out. Fire station eh? Something extra special caught my eye…

JAWS OF LIFE. Well, kinda. They’re from a hydraulic cutter for sure and they’re an immense 22mm thick slab of hardened steel! And completely free. Scrapman seemed completely unbothered by me asking if I could have them. Big ups Robin, you wonderful pirate.

ANYWAY. SO. YES. Here are the three events in my robo-life that are important to set the scene for this build. I always wanted to build a grabber, I have most of a useable chassis and as the cherry on top I have something too cool not to use.

Just as a rough mock up, pushing parts together showed that it was all a little too perfect to ignore. My first plan was to retrofit a cordless impact gun (£5, eBay) into one of Coyote’s old actuators (£postage, Jamie) to make an Ugga Dugga crusher which is something I have also always wanted to do. This was very doable but looked like it was going to take a lot of custom parts and careful engineering. With Fight Fest sadly not happening I decided to simplify my life and just use the chassis that I had, cobble together a “normal” actuator from the bits I already have (and some broken ones I acquired on the side)

With all full combat based pressure off I decided to have as much fun building something I found neat as humanly possible. Life is too short not to have a second slice of cake, a generous helping of double cream and build a devilish featherweight out of sweat, scrap and moxie. I was enjoying how my beetle project “Hard Nips” was going with the larger rear wheels and so I kept it going for this one. Also it sort of helps to explain where the working title came from. It is just a larger version of the beetle but Big Hard Nips is a little on the nose. I scratched through the bottom of the barrel and came out comfortably in the gutter with Nibble Clamp. Descriptive.

So something you may have noticed is I was a little stuck on where the drive motors ended up. They are pretty much in the centre of the robot. Great for a rapid pirouetting, Terrorhurtz imitating axebot but decidedly less fantastic for what I was trying to do here. Also I was slightly limited by using regular 550 based drills and none of my scabby, beefy DeWalt units here. As a bit of fun and to simplify my life I elected to just drive everything with a single length of 8mm chain. These sprockets are eye-wateringly cheap and they let me drive everything in a very straightforward way.

Unfortunately I don’t have a great deal of “wrap” on the driven sprocket but with a carefully placed tensioner I get a comfortable amount of teeth engaged. It’s not good but it’s good enough for BEV’s. I think its just a facsimile of a version of Uberclocker’s drive setup anyway

The driven sprocket was tapped out to 3/8" so it just threads onto the drill output shaft. This and the sprocket for the small font wheel are the same size while the larger wheel is 20T to get the drive speed in sync.

Few printed parts are coming in here. The chain guide is pretty much there, not the greatest abuse of mechanical principals I’ve committed but it’s top 5 at least. The 8mm shoulders are placeholders for the time being. They’ll be a standard M10/12mm shoulder when it’s finished. The actuator also has a printed endcap to interface with the jaw and the pivot point has two printed conical spacers to act as a bushing. Whole thing runs on a 16mm shoulder.

Printed some trial wheels here. These will be a nylon core with a polyurethane tread pattern but while I work out spacing, interface and just overall look it was nice to have a physical object to wave around and spit on. They have a bore to fit a bronze bushing and have a hole pattern to bolt up to the sprockets which will be drilled and tapped to M4.

Love the kind of squat meaty stance. Because there is quite a lot of steel in quite a small footprint it is genuinely hefty and I imagine quite well planted. My plan is to nail down a length of 15mm to make a routed back panel and some ~6mm polycarbonate for lids. The 550’s I have are all 12v native so 5s is going to be a bit of a zesty push when they’re in quite a stressed system already. Cheap 1500mah 4s packs fit way nicer so ill have two of them in the rear portion of the robot. I’ll nick the drive ESC’s from the 4WD flatpack as they’re smaller than the Electronizes and jam them in the front under the wedge. Some light duty HDPE feeder forks are probably on the cards too. The actuator will probably get it’s control from a lonely BB30a I have in my empire of dirt.

The only other way I could see myself going with the drive is trying to swap out the 36:1 gearbox out for a 24:1 if I can find a 4:1 stage and some 18v 550’s on 5s. Just thinking it’s an 83mm wheel so potentially that’s a bit too sluggish even for the BEV’s arena. Lovely to have options though.

While still very early days I figured I’d get the ball rolling with a build diary as it’ll at least sort of hold me accountable to finishing it. It’s spiritually made up of at least two abandoned projects at this point so it would be disappointing for this to become vapour too.

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That looks amazing! Really nailed the scrap van aesthetic. :heartpulse:

Gee golly mister, FarmFest just done gone been announced.

Precious little progress has been made but when have I ever let that get in the way of an update. Luckily there isn’t actually all that much to do for NC as the construction is so simple and it is made out of already existing parts. The devilish fun will be in the detail I imagine.

Holes have been bopp’d in the sprockets which will be tapped out to M4. The wheels will be the classic printed nylon affair which will bolt straight to them, overlapping the boss of the pulley for a bit of extra stress relief. Like every well organised man I have every single tap neatly dumped in a tin except an M4. Thinking back pretty sure I split the last one I had about this time last year on Flatpack. Man, I hate how little making I actually do these days. Ebay to the rescue. These also need boring out to 14mm to take a bushing but while ordering them it was going to be 110% of the sprocket price just to 'ave an 'ole so I’ve let that be a problem for another day. Worst case I just wiggle a 14mm drill through them with a printed guide and just gob Loctite on the bushing.

I sorted out my empire of grease in the interim looking for inspiration and drill motors. God that’s a lot of drill motors.

Saying that, I only found one 18v drill assembly in the flavour that I wanted so in the absence of any matching pairs I will be running 12v motors on the drive and sticking the singular 18v on the actuator. I figure it’ll have a hard enough life as it is. I dug out a set of my favourite types of drill, vintage Argos. 36:1 billy basics but with an overhung motor mount which provides the 550 with an extra 2mm of nylon emotional support and a D bore steel pinion (All death Metal, all the time)

On my travels I also remembered I own a very dangerous amount of A123 cells that have been sitting pretty in an ice cream tub on the side for a hot minute now. The main benefit of them is they cost nothing and actually fit really well into the back end of Nibby. I pulled out ten cells to shove in as pretend packs and they do almost look like they are supposed to be there.

Now I have about forty or fifty of these green pleasers so I am hoping that I can voltage match at least two 5s packs. Using my best guess I am going to basically cycle each cell I can individually and sort them by a stable voltage and maybe resistance and see where I get. I want to go 2 packs in parallel in order to (maybe) let me play all day without arseing about charging packs and to get as much discharge as I can out of them. I’m confident they would be fine just running two weedy drills in a sportsman but I feel that it’s within my best interests to baby them a little bit. Weight isn’t enough for an issue to matter.

I haven’t built a round cell pack since the NiCAD/NiMH days and I used to quite enjoy it. Plan will be to pop some 12AWG wire so there is some flex and I don’t have to rely on brittle silver tabs (or pay for them) and repurpose some old balance leads from dead batteries - hey I knew I clipped my old cables for a reason! Win #2 for being a packrat. I even had some beefy turnigy heat shrink left over from the Robot Wars days. Better and better.

Ultimately it’s a bit of cost effective fun if it pans out, and if it doesn’t it is only 30 Bezos Blood Bucks to have a pair of 1500mah 4s packs prime’d to my doorstep.

The roving gangs of Yeovil youth are extra spicy at the moment and enjoy terrorising each other and setting fire to my stairwell. After the smoke and policemanofficers subsided we found all their furniture they used to set up shop in the blocked off entrance. In a predictable act of spite I stat by the side of the road taking the things apart to steal bolts and threaded inserts. I’ll be using these to hold in the 15mm HDPE rear panel in to the folded steel chassis and also mount the lid.

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